Doc, I did after being 40 years in. I think we underestimate what is happening as far as exposing the WT as being a cult and the effect it is having on JWs worldwide. The amount of people waking up compared to say the 80s is mind-boggling.Older ones have no where else to go. They see that the only "End" that is near, is their own. But it would not be wise for them to risk all their friends and any family they have still "in".
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What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)
by John Aquila inlet's pretend this might happen.
im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).
if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.
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What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)
by John Aquila inlet's pretend this might happen.
im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).
if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.
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It is possible they drop 1914 anytime from now ,if I look back to the time I first studied their teachings in 1974-75 ,and then look forward from then, I could never imagine the religion and it's teachings now that we see.
That's what I see wozza, these guys are so crazy and presumptuous that anything is possible. When I came in I saw quite a few die because they wouldn't accept blood. Then out of the blue, blood fractions are ok. Everyone would say; "We will never accept blood, if we do, we are NOT the true religion"
But what happend? It changed overnight.
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Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.
by John Aquila inlast night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.
he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.
then out of the blue he tells me; .
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Vidiot 5 hours ago
That suggests that he was actually with them in the first place, originally.
It ain't much of a stretch to go from "they had it once but lost it" to "they probably never had it", though.
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What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)
by John Aquila inlet's pretend this might happen.
im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).
if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.
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I understand many jw will still not wake up, but would the news of dropping 1914 impel an ex-jw to approach his jw relatives and point out that the basis for believing in the last days is over. Would it give you an incentive to go tell them, "It's over, you were following false prophets, it's time to reexamine your religion"
Or would you just leave your relatives alone.
I personally would give it a shot and try to help them see that it's over. The last days starting in 1914 was a scam.
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What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)
by John Aquila inlet's pretend this might happen.
im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).
if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.
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Let's pretend this might happen.
I’m not asking what it will mean for the JDUBs or for the organization, but what will it mean FOR YOU---- if one day you wake up and the Watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.
(You know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime)
If you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;
“Are you going to talk to me now?”
“I guess Jesus didn’t start to rule in 1914!”
“Are you going to keep following the Watchtower?”
“Are you going to keep on preaching?”
“I told you so”
Would it make a big impact on your life? Would you be pissed of at your relatives for all the time lost? Would you want them back in your life after all the years of shunning?
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Peter answers the questions of when are the last days and what Generation all in one chapter
by Crazyguy inin chapter 2 of acts ,this is the seen of pentecost and the speaking of tongues.
people started freaking out thinking these people are drunk an peter gets up and says in verses 16-17 these people are not drunk this in the fulfilment of the prophecy written in joel.
he goes on to describe all these things and those accomplishes by jesus and says these are the last days.
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Morpheus 13 minutes ago
Very true but the dubbies would say there was a past and a modern fulfillmentYou forgot the "Future Fulfillment" Morpheus, after the overlapping generation runs its course. We're talking maybe 2075. -
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How did Matthew Use the Word "Generation"?
by BluesBrother inanother "generation" thread....i know!
when splane wanted a scripture that demonstrated the bible's use of the word he went all the way back to moses and used ex.
1.6. he could have stayed in the same book and used matthew chapter 1,written by the same hand.
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Are the Governing Body broadcasts promoted at Kingdom Hall meetings?
by nicolaou ina question for those still attending i guess but are all these new jw.telemuppet.org broadcasts advertised to the the rank and file or is it more of a background thing?.
i'm wondering because i just can't believe my 70 year old die-hard jw mum would ever see them if she wasn't sat down in front of a screen and someone clicked 'play' for her.
i really want her to see the wizards behind the curtain.
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Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.
by John Aquila inlast night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.
he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.
then out of the blue he tells me; .
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OneEyedJoe
My wife (in her early 30s) recently said that she fully expects to grow old and die before the new system comes. I asked her why she doesn't believe what they're telling her - that it's going to come soon - and she couldn't answer.Wow, Wow, Wow--------I'm at a loss of words.I don't even know what to think anymore on how to help some of these JWs.
